User talk:PBCliberal

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(Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 18:45, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)


Notability of Ira Cook[edit]

A tag has been placed on Ira Cook, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that you can assert the notability of the subject, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm the subject's notability under Wikipedia guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. --Dynaflow babble 08:07, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I started the article on Ira Cook that you fast tracked to oblivion, because he was referred to on the KMPC page in a list of DJs during that station's golden era. Some of the radio personalities on the list (such as Robert W. Morgan) already have extensive articles. Ira Cook did not, so I created one for him as he recently passed away, figuring others could come along and flesh out more of the details. You're welcome to kill Mr. Cook's bio if you don't think him worthy, but I don't see how it advantages anyone to do so. Obviously other authors of the KMPC page thought everyone on the list of golden-age personalities were notable enough to tag as links. --PBCliberal
The problem was that the article you created looks less like an article -- even a stub article -- and more like a capsule obituary (see Wikipedia is not a memorial). The sysop who reviewed the deletion request also concurred that, as written, the article would not pass muster [1].
There are certain standards for verifiable notability which an article must assert about its subject (see WP:NOTE and WP:BIO); even if a subject is notable, it must be possible for a third party to verify that in order an article to be acceptable in a tertiary source like WP. If you would like time to rewrite the article without anyone "fast-tracking it to oblivion," as you put it, you can create the article and work on it in your Wikipedia userspace before pasting it into mainspace, where it will immediately have to pass through a critical gauntlet. If you would like help in putting together a new article, I am more than willing to answer any questions you may have. Just leave me a message on Talk page. --Dynaflow babble 15:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)